Dere and gire character types iceberg

Dere and gire character types iceberg is an iceberg chart topic. On r/IcebergCharts, the highest-scoring available chart on it, "Dere and Gire Iceberg Chart", was posted by u/inhi-XD on 7 July 2023 and had about 14 upvotes when it was collected. A text version, "Dere and Gire" by inhiXD, is hosted on IcebergThreads, where it had 746 views as of 29 October 2026.

The IcebergThreads author describes it as: ""Dere type characters are characters that express their affection in different ways, or on different levels. Most of the dere types are how characters react to becoming lovestruck. What is Gire ギレ? The suffix "gire" (ギレ) is sometimes added to these personality words instead of "dere" (デレ). Its meaning in words such as tsungire, kuugire and yangire is that of "snapping" or "being mad" instead of…"

Entries reflect the chart authors' choices and are not verified fact.

"Dere and Gire Iceberg Chart" by u/inhi-XD (7 July 2023)

Tiers

Tiers and entries from the IcebergThreads version. Notes after a dash are shortened from the author's explanations.

Tier 1

• Kuudere – "Kuudere" (クーデレ), sometimes written as "Kūdere" or just "Kudere", is a character who is calm and collected on the outside and never panics. They show little emotion, and in extreme cases, are…
• Tsundere – "Tsundere" is a term for a character who acts rude, cold, and hostile towards their love interest in order to conceal their warm and caring feelings.
• Yandere – Yandere is a Japanese archetype used to define a character whose love, admiration, and devotion is so strong that it is expressed as an excessive obsession and possessiveness. They are often seen as…
• Dandere – A "Dandere" is a character who is shy, quiet, timid and asocial. They are afraid to talk, fearing that what they say will get them in trouble.
• Deredere – Deredere characters are usually very sweet and energetic. They are seen most of the time in a cheerful and happy mood and they tend to spread joyfulness to the ones around them. No matter what may…

Tier 2

• Meganekko / Megane – A "Meganekko" is a term for a cute and sweet female character who wears glasses, no matter it is for aesthetic purposes or to correct their vision. The male version for this type is called "Megane".
• Erodere – Erodere characters will act perverted and lustful at first, but will become love struck and more embarrassed after experiencing true love.
• Nyandere – A "Nyandere" is a dere type that is cat-related or is very obsessed with them, to the point where they act like them sometimes or all the time when their "dere" side appears.
• Risoudere – "Risoudere" is a term used for characters who are popular and famous, seen as the ideal love interest but also sometimes unreachable romantically due to their fame.
• Deretsun – "Derestun", also known as "Tsundere Type B", is a term for a tsundere whose dere side is their default mood. They are sweet, kind and generous, but have a hidden irritable side that comes out around…
• Bakadere – A "Bakadere" refers to a character who is or acts very clumsy and stupid. More often than not, they lack common sense.
• Utaudere – This character is passionate about music.
• Tsundra – "Tsundra", also known as "Tsundora", is like a tsundere who acts so uninterested and brutal that they sound serious.
• Himedere – A "Himedere" refers to a character who wishes to be treated like a princess or a queen by the person she loves, even if she is not actual royalty
• Nonkinadere – "Nonkinadere" is a term used for characters that tends to fall in love easily.
• Hiyakasudere – A "Hiyakasudere", also known as "Teasedere" (ティーズデレ) or "Smugdere" in some Western media, refers to a character who likes to tease others and sometimes flirt with those they like.
• Kamidere – A "Kamidere" refers to a character with a god complex, making them self-centered and arrogant towards those they see as inferior to them and who are not deserving of their time.
• Kondere – "Kondere" is a term for a character who is a kitsune, fox-related, or is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act like one.
• Kuutsundere – A "Kuutsundere" is a cross between a kuudere and tsundere.
• Ahodere – "Ahodere" is a term for a character who is oblivious to feelings of love.
• Miko – "Miko" is a term for a character who is a shrine maiden.
• Tsunshun – A "Tsunshun" is a character that goes "tsun", and then goes "shun".
• Megadere – A "Megadere" is obsessed with their love interest in a fangirl/fanboy fashion and won't be afraid to show their interest towards them.
• Otaku – "Otaku" is a term for a character who is obsessed with Japanese-related media.
• Harapeko Chara – "Harapeko Chara" is a term used for characters that like to eat a lot.
• Onidere – Onidere refers to a character with a demon/devil complex. They will treat others included their love interest badly and like scum in front of other people, but will turn lovey-dovey after a while and…
• Mahou Shoujo – "Mahou Shoujo" is an anime subgenre and term used for girls who are secretly magical girls. They always going through a transformation process before battle to turn into their magical alter ego and…
• Hikikomori – "Hikikomori" is a term referring to people who shut themselves away from the outside world by staying at home.
• Genki – "Genki" is a term for a character that is even more energetic than a typical deredere character.
• Hajidere – A "Hajidere" refers to a character who is really nervous and embarrassed around their crush. Their shyness either only appears when they are around or interacting with their love interest or…
• Dojikko – "Dojikko" is a term for a character who is very clumsy.
• Dorodere – A "Dorodere", sometimes spelled "Doredere", refers to a character who acts or seems sweet on the outside but is actually full of bad feelings, like grudges, towards others or even their love interest.
• Danredere – A "Danredere" is a dandere who also has a deredere side.

Tier 3

• Fuandere – A "Fuandere" is a character who is constantly anxious.
• Koukidere – A "Koukidere" is someone who is very curious.
• Sairentodere – "Sairentodere" is a term used for characters that never talk or are mute.
• Narukidere – A "Narukidere" is a character who is narcissistic or a character who thinks they're better than others about something in particular.
• Byoukidere – A "Byoukidere" refers to a character who is usually very sweet and kind but suffers from a physical disease, usually a fatal one.
• Metagire – "Metagire" are characters that use their omniscient abilities in dangerous ways, even for their viewers.
• Joudandere – A "Joudandere" is a character that likes to joke around and is seen as funny.
• Utsudere – An "Utsudere" refers to a character who is often sad and depressed because of a traumatic event or condition, sometimes hidden in front of others at first.
• Tsumidere – "Tsumidere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Kamidere".
• Megaundere – A "Megaundere" is a cross between a megadere and a undere.
• Suzushiidere – A "Suzushiidere" is a character that acts cool and chill at all times.
• Oujodere – Oujodere refers to a female character who is a more gentle and calm kind of deredere, acting ladylike or even like a true princess in front of others.
• Sadodere – A "Sadodere" refers to a character who has a sadistic personality. They enjoy playing with their love interests' feelings, and are commonly referred to as a 'mean tease'.
• Daredere – A "Daredere" is a character that is reckless and rushes into dangerous situations.
• Deregire – Characters that despite their innocent and adorable appearance are usually cruel and aggressive.
• Hazukagire – "Hazukagire" are characters that don't tolerate others performing romantic and/or perverted actions. They will act aggressively to stop such behaviours.
• Shundere – Shundere refers to a character who is sad all of the time. Shundere characters often are sad from the start because of their personality and negative mood, and this sadness is not usually caused…
• Darudere – A "Darudere" refers to a character who is often very lazy and dull. They will usually ignore others and do whatever they want unless someone they care about asks them to do something or needs their…
• Amaidere – These character like to eat sweets, desserts or anything sweet.
• Sumatodere – A "Sumatodere" is someone who is very smart and clever.
• Etsundere – "Etsundere" is a combination between an "Erodere" and a "Tsundere".
• Yeredere – A "Yeredere" is a cross between a deredere and yandere.
• Kuugire – "Kuugire" is a term for a character who is cold and unloving.
• Ajidere – Characters that like a specific type of food or drink.
• Charaodere – Charaodere is a character that acts like a playboy/playgirl.
• Eiyuugire – Characters with an anti-hero complex.
• Bokukko – "Bokukko" is a term for a female character who is a tomboy and acts and looks boyish.
• Manzodere – "Manzodere" are character that enjoy life to its fullest.
• Yangire – "Yangire" is a term for a character who seems innocent and caring at first, but shows their true violent and loveless nature when they snap
• Usodere – An "Usodere" is a character who lie and use tricks to win the heart of their love interest. They cover up the truth to gain something from them and others
• Hazukadere – A "Hazukadere" is a character embarrassed about anything related to love.
• Bocchandere – A "Bocchandere" refers to a character who is related to the yakuza or mafia somehow, making them usually act superior to others and bossy, even sometimes threatening until they find someone they will…
• Tsuntsun – "Tsuntsun" is a term for a character who is exceptionally grumpy and difficult to talk to.
• Bishounen – "Bishounen" is a term referring to a male character with traditionally feminine physical traits and personality. This would be the male counterpart of Bokukko.
• Bokodere – A nicer version of kamidere, this character acts like a god but they are not arrogant and do not have a strong god complex. They can also be characters that are a deity, but behave kindly towards…

Tier 4

• Tsun'Aho – "Tsun'Aho" is a term for a character who acts so "tsun" that they become "aho"
• Jikoudere – A "Jikoudere" is a person who is attracted to someone but acts like they are attracted to someone else.
• Osanadere – "Osanadere" is a term used for characters that are the childhood friend of the main character or love interest.
• Biridere – "Biridere" is a term for a character that expresses their love with electricity, usually in a very violent and hostile way.
• Omodere – A nicer version of kamidere, this character acts like a god but they are not arrogant and do not have a strong god complex. They can also be characters that are a deity, but behave kindly towards…
• Bosudere – A "Bosudere" is a character who acts bossy.
• Mekanikkugire – Mekanikkugire characters use their inventions to harma and destroy the world. They will also use their inventions to hurt innocent people and they will not give a care.
• Hinedere – A "Hinedere", also known as "Hinodere" in some media, refers to characters who have cynical world views, are cold-hearted, and are highly arrogant. They will get easily annoyed by other people,…
• Nigoridere – "Nigoridere" is a term used for characters that look like or dress up as the opposite gender.
• Bureidere – A "Bureidere" is a character that can be seen as rude and impolite. They tend to act unmannerly and can use a lot of swear words too.
• Dangire – As far as one makes out, a dangire is a quiet person who snaps, cuts, swipes, steals and/or kills, regardless of whether they're shy or not, unlike a dandere.
• Houkadere – A "Houkadere" is a character who has a strong affinity for fire, whether it is due to pyromania, or is just a curiosity of their nature.
• Coodere – "Coodere" is a term for a character who acts kuudere at first, but turns lovestruck.
• Ungire – "Undgire" are characters that, no matter who it is, they must follow someone's orders no matter what; even if their master is cruel and evil.
• Wasuredere – A "Wasuredere" is a character who is pretty bad when it comes to love, and gets rejected most of the time.
• Yamato Nadeshiko – "Yamato Nadeshiko" is a term for a character who is a representation of the Japanese ideal of a perfect woman.
• Shizendere – "Shizendere" is a term for a character who loves nature. They like and try to protect fauna and flora.
• Dandorodere – "Dandorodere" are dere characters that are a cross between a "dandere" and a "dorodere (Western)".
• Tsuyoidere – "Tsuyoidere" are characters that are or are seen very strong and powerful.
• Tegadere – A "Tegadere" is a combination of "Megadere" and "Tsundere".
• Kyouhidere – "Kyouhidere" is a term used for characters that hate love.
• Dottigire – Someone who usually exhibits unusual and weird behaviour. They snap and go completely insane, maniacal, and become lunatics.
• Nemuidere – A "Nemuidere" refers to a character that spends much of their time sleeping, intentionally or unintentionally.
• Bibiridere – "Bibiridere" are characters with a cowardly personality. They will often be afraid of something or someone and will need their love interest for comfort.
• Suitsun – A "Suitsun" is a type of tsundere who is usually stern, cold, or hostile to everyone except to their love interest.
• Sukeban / Banchou – "Sukeban" is a term for a female character who is a delinquent. The male equivalent is called Banchou
• Jendere – "Jendere" is a term for male characters who are sweet, kind, and gentlemanly. They are a calmer version of deredere characters, some acting like true princes.
• Tsuntere – "Tsuntere" is a term for a shy tsundere in which the tsun side is more pronounced.
• Tsureidere – A "Tsureidere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Bureidere".
• Shindere – "Shindere" is a term for a character who died and became a ghost. They may have also been revived, but with supernatural powers or drawbacks.
• Uzadere – "Uzadere" is a term for characters who are very loud and annoying.
• Undere – An "Undere" refers to a character who says "yes" or "I agree" to almost everything the one they love says and follows everything they are told to do. They are really dependent on their love interest,…
• Usagidere – "Usagidere" is a term for a character who is rabbit-related or is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act like one.
• Dyandere – "Dyandere" is a combination of "Dandere" and "Yandere".
• Maadere – "Maadere" is a term for a character who is a mermaid/merman, or who is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act or dress like one.
• Eiyuudere – Characters who have a hero complex.
• Yokaradere – A "Yokaradere" is a term used for a former protagonist, ally or hero/heroine who turns into evil, Also considered an opposite of mayadere.
• Yottadere – A "Yottadere" is a character that is noteworthy for their constant drinking of alcohol.
• Sadomasodere – "Sadomasodere" is a combination of "Sadodere" and "Masodere".
• Peradere – A "Peradere" is someone who is really talkative.
• Tsungire – "Tsungire" is a term for a character who is devoid of love and filled with rage
• Mekanikkudere – Characters who are inventors and/or mechanics.
• Youchinadere – A "Youchinadere" is a character who acts very playful and childish, even if they aren't kids anymore.
• Bucchigire – “Bucchigire” is a term for a character who is extremely violent and loveless.

Tier 5

• Tsunpure – "Tsunpure" is a term for a character who is brutally honest with others, but rarely honest with themself.
• Inudere – "Inudere" or "Wandere" is a term for a character who is dog-related or is obsessed with them to point where they start to act like one.
• Gundere – "Gundere", also known as "Gandere", is a term for a character who expresses their love with or towards guns.
• Tsumedere / Tsujidere – "Tsumedere" / "Tsujidere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Himedere"/"Oujidere".
• Tsuyandere – "Tsuyandere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Yandere".
• Chudere – "Chudere" is a term for a character who is mouse-related or is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act like one. Hamsters and other small rodent house pets can also enter this…
• Oneedere / Oniidere – "Oneedere" / "Oniidere" is a term used for characters that act like older siblings.
• Hiyakatsundere – "Hiyakatsundere" is a combination of "Hiyakasudere" and "Tsundere".
• Namaikidere – Himedere, but are less serious and more sassy and conceited.
• Zondere – “Zondere” is a term for a character who becomes a zombie.
• Yowaidere – "Yowaidere" is a term used for characters that are really weak, also seen as the opposite of tsuyoidere.
• Himegire – A himegire refers to a character who wishes to be treated like a princess by everyone. They are similar to himedere, but force others to conform and become their subordinates. They'll do this even if…
• Hikandere – A "Hikandere" is someone who is pessimistic and insecure about love and liking someone.
• Kamigire – A kamigire is a person with a god complex. Kamigire would be a subset of kamidere. They both have a superiority complex and they both believe they are the perfect beings. The difference with kamigire…
• Fushindere – A "Fushindere" is a character with a paranoid personality or a character distrustful of their love interest. Fushindere characters think that their love interest is lying to them.
• Mayadere – A "Mayadere" refers to a character who is often a dangerous antagonist of a series but switches sides after falling in love or after becoming fond of another character, usually the protagonist or…
• Yanmere – "Yanmere" is a combination of "Yandere" and "Metadere".
• Sekkachidere – A "Sekkachidere'" is someone who is really impatient.
• Nemuigire – A "Nemuigire", similar to a nemuidere, refers to a character who spends much of their time sleeping. The difference is that when they are awake, they become very aggressive, especially with those who…
• Kitikudere – A "Kitikudere", also known as "Thugdere" (サグデレ) in some media, is someone who acts as a bully and often mistreats others and their love interest, harming them physically or emotionally to hide their…
• Duudere – A "Duudere" is a "Dandere" who acts like a "Kuudere".
• Kuuhinedere – "Kuuhinedere" is a combination of "Kuudere" and "Hinedere".
• Tsunedere – "Tsunedere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Hinedere".
• Utsuredere – An "Utsuredere" is a combination of "Utsudere" and "Deredere".
• Kowaidere – A "Kowaidere" is a character that scares their love interests.
• Kosupureidere – "Kosupureidere" is a character who likes cosplay or wearing costumes.
• Bakagire – Characters that, despite their little common sense and idiocy, tend to be very aggressive, especially when trying to "prove" that they aren't stupid to others.
• Kamiyandere – "Kamiyandere" are a cross between a "Kamidere" and a "Yandere".
• Karutogire – A "Karutogire" is a character so devoted to a god and their religion that they go insane.
• Menhera – "Menhera" is an aesthetic and style used to represent depression in a more innocent way to normalize these dark themes and problems in Japan.
• Tobokedere – A "Tobokedere" is a character who pretends to be stupid in front of their love interest.
• Kekkondere – A "Kekkondere" refers to a character obsessed with marriage or who wants to get married right away, even with someone they just met.
• Kireigire – A "Kireigire" is a character who gets obsessed with the beauty in the world to the point of insanity.
• Kiredere – "Kiredere" is a term for a character who acts rude and harsh towards their love interest in hopes that they will better themselves.
• Kumadere – "Kumadere" is a term used for characters that are bear-like.
• Bifauxnen – "Bifauxnen" is a term for a female character who is portrayed beautifully masculine and behave like a gentleman. This is the female counterpart of "Jendere".
• Dorodere (Western) – A "Dorodere", sometimes spelled "Doredere", refers to a character who acts cute and sweet on the outside but is deeply disturbed on the inside. They will act unpredictably and even crazy from the…
• Yandegire – "Yandegire", also known as "Yandeguire", is a term for a yangire in love
• Masodere
• Chuunibyou – "Chuunibyou" is a term for a character who has delusions of grandeur.
• Oujidere – An "Oujidere", sometimes spelled "Ōjidere", refers to a character who wants to be treated like a prince or a king by the person he loves, even if he is not actual royalty.
• Ookamidere – "Ookamidere" is a term for a character who is wolf-related or is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act like one.
• Kanedere – A "Kanedere" refers to a character who is attracted to others with money or status
• Kuuundere – "Kuuundere" is a combination of kuudere and undere.
• Goudere – Goudere characters will stop at nothing to obtain whatever they think or want their master to have. They are unstoppable forces that do whatever they please for their special someone, out of their…
• Hokoridere – A "Hokoridere" is someone, or more normally, a couple who are proud of their relationship and show it everywhere.
• Satikudere – "Satikudere" is a combination of "Sadodere" and "Kitikudere".
• Kichidere – Kichidere is a character that is crazy and dangerous but their feelings of love, and reactions to them, are surprisingly normal.
• Onigire – "Onigire" is a character that also has a demon complex. Unlike their onidere' counterparts, they hurt and manipulate those around them.

Tier 6

• Seeraadere – "Seeraadere" is a term used for characters with a sailor, pirate or captain complex.
• Patorodere / Shugaamamiidere – A "Patorodere" / "Shugaamamiidere" is a wealthy character that gives money to everyone.
• Kusuburudere – "Kusuburudere" are characters that don't want to marry anyone yet or are afraid of it.
• Punndere – "Punndere" is a term for a character who is filthy and unhygienic.
• Namidere – A "Namidere" is a character who cries when they become flustered.
• Raibarudere – A "Raibarudere" is a character who begins to grow fond of their rival.
• Utsutsundere – A "Utsutsundere" is a mix of "Utsudere" and "Tsundere".
• Mazuidere – A bully, but not a physically aggressive dere type.
• Tsundandere – "Tsundandere" is acombination of "Tsundere" and "Dandere"
• Nihondere / Nippondere – A "Nihondere / Nippondere" is a character who is obsessed with Japan and swears to never offend or the disrespect the country itself. The word Nihon / Nippon means Japan.
• Rakidere – "Rakidere" is a term used for characters with good luck.
• Tsuwajidere – "Tsuwajidere" a combination of "Tsundere" and "Kowajidere".
• Narukigire – A "Narukigire" is a character obsessed with their own beauty in a destructive way.
• Oujigire – An Oujigire character is a prince-like character who snaps when one disobeys or doesn't treat him like royalty. They are a male type who shares the same energy as himegire.
• Jounetsudere – A "Jounetsudere" is a character who is known for being very enlightened about a specific subject and they are very passionate about sharing their knowledge with their loved ones.
• Otonadere – "Otonadere" is a term used for characters that are treated as doormats
• Tabegire – A "Tabegire" is a character that turns aggressive and murderous because of food. This is a variation of Harapeko Chara.
• Hanrandere – A "Hanrandere" is a character that is rebellious and complains a lot.
• Jinkusudere – A "Jinkusudere" is an unlucky character.
• Hanahaki Disease – "Hanahaki Disease" is a term used for a fictional illness that causes a character to begins coughing up flowers due to an unrequited love.
• Himitsudere – A "Himitsudere" is a character who usually acts very secretive to everyone except for their love interest.
• Danshudere / Danutsudere – "Danshudere" / "Danutsudere" is a combination between "Dandere" and "Utsudere"/"Shundere".
• Hiyakadodere – "Hiyakadodere" is a combination of "Hiyakasudere" and "Sadodere".
• Nakidere – A "Nakidere" is someone who acts like a crybaby.
• Kazedere – A "Kazedere" is a dere that is often sick near their love interest, or sick even if their love interest is not nearby.
• Kuuyandere – A "Kuuyandere" is a "Kuudere" who is also a "Yandere".
• Hitsujidere – "Hitsujidere" is a term for a character who is sheep, ram, or goat-related, or is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act like one.
• Tasodere – "Tasodere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Masodere".
• Metadere – "Metadere" is a term used for characters that are omniscient and meta.
• Joudangire – Characters whose jokes go too far, or who see incorrect actions and horrible situations as funny, sometimes caused or worsened by themselves just to have a little laugh.
• Yoseidere – "Yoseidere" is a term for a character who is a fairy, is related to them, or is obsessed with them to the point where they start to act or dress like one.
• Tsumayadere – "Tsumayadere" is a combination of "Tsundere" and "Mayadere".
• Fumindere – A "Fumindere" is a character that is depicted as restless and they barely sleep, they're also considered the opposite of nemuidere.
• Kyoukidere – A "Kyoukidere" is a character with multiple personalities and dere types.
• Byoukigire – A person who acts sick or exaggerates an illness purely for the entertainment of watching others suffer over them. Other characters of this type inflict an illness or other ailments onto other people…
• Sagyodere – "Sagyodere" is a term used for characters that are workaholics.
• Robodere – "Robodere" is a term used for characters who are or act like a robot.
• Kireidere – A "Kireidere" is a character who shows their love and admiration by trying to bring out the best in their love interest so that they can see the beauty that they really have.
• Kowajidere – A "Kowajidere" is a dere type who is afraid of themself.
• Dottidere – A "Dottidere" refers to a character who is viewed as acting unusual, eccentric and a little crazy.
• Amaigire – "Amaigire" is a term used for characters that turn aggressive and murderous because of sweets.
• Imoutodere / Otoutodere – "Imoutodere / Otoutodere" are terms used for a character that acts like a little sibling.
• Borodere – A "Borodere" is a person of good heart who lives in poor conditions.
• Yasaidere – Characters who are vegetarian or love eating vegetables.
• Karutodere – A "Karutodere" is a character who is highly religious.
• Oujogire – They are elegantly dangerous, and will perform aggressive actions calmly and even wearing a smile when they finally snap.
• Kanegire – "Kanegire" are characters that only care about money and don't care how they get it, or if their actons harm others.
• Damuidere – "Damuidere" a combination of "Darudere" and "Nemuidere".
• Otodere / Okadere – "Otodere" / "Okadere" are terms used for characters that are or act like parents.
• Tabakodere – A "Tabakodere" is someone who is always smoking.
• Senpaidere – "Senpaidere" are characters who tend to attract the attention and love of a lot of other characters and dere types for no reason.
• Sutooriidere – "Sutooriidere" is a term used for characters that apply fiction to their everyday lives.
• Kahogonadere – "Kahogonadere" is a term used for characters who are overprotective.
• Kyouzedere – A "Kyouzedere" is someone who is attracted to people who reject them.

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See also

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• Anime iceberg

Sources

• Featured Reddit chart: u/inhi-XD. Dere and Gire Iceberg Chart. Reddit (r/IcebergCharts). 7 July 2023. Retrieved 29 October 2026.
• IcebergThreads version: inhiXD. Dere and Gire. IcebergThreads. 16 January 2026. Retrieved 29 October 2026.